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Operation Disclosure: GCR/RV Intel Alert for July 18, 2018

RV/INTELLIGENCE ALERT - July 18, 2018 (Disclaimer: The following is an overview of the current situation based on rumors/leaks from sev...

Wednesday, August 9, 2017

TNT Showtime CC w/ RayRen98 Notes by Adept1 8-9-17

(Notes by Adept1)

TNT Call notes 9-August-2017

Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029#


RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! Today is Wednesday, August 9, 2017, with yours truly RayRen98 here. The announcement said ‘no hot news – yet’, and that is still the case. S o what do we have to look forward to? There are good expectations of this popping out according to the update I sent out yesterday. There isn’t much more – yet. Article 140: we/they are rapidly approaching the two days looking for that to become a reality; that is why the repeal in the budget was there in the first place, to push Article 140 out. They have reportedly met, and we are now awaiting reports from that meeting. So from scuttlebutt, television, mosques, people on the street, we are hearing things are taking place that we were expecting. Once they publicize it, everyone is playing catch-up. Contractors are being told the new rate are effective 21. August, and they have to get their accounts in line with that. It’s real, when we can see this in public. Everything is still looking on or before the 21st; that’s what I’m looking for, too. This is what we expect by/before 21. August:
Contractors to pay their staff at the new rate.
The cards out to the citizens by the 21stso they can be loaded, with a ratio of 1:1.
The release of the public international rate to come several days after that (general understanding from what is being communicated)

Questions from the TNT forum

Q: In yesterday’s update you stated “The public international revealing is supposedly several days after August 21.” Are we considered the “Public” or will we be notified earlier as part of the “internet” groups? It has been previously mentioned that the internet groups will be exchanging prior to the Public notification.

A: We are somewhere in between. We are not a structured internet group, but we will probably go sooner than the public.

Q: Will we be able to exchange our currency at one of the 13 bank seminars post RV?

A: No, those are just for educational purposes and for the banks to show us what they offer. They may instruct us in exchange procedures, but not exchanging at those sessions. You might make an appointment with that particular bank for later on…

Q: Do you believe all currencies we’ve been discussing will revalue on the same day??

A: Yes, even though I hope not.

Q: What paper work is needed if several people would like to pool their currency together with the intent of getting a higher exchange rate??

A: Create a trust or corporation where you are all trustees or officers; you would exchange and then split it up according to what you have agreed between you.

Q: With your expertise in trust, what age would you turn over a trust to a young adult child – 21, 25, 30 years old? I’m in my mid-60s and would like to help my children when the RV happens.

A: If they are truly responsible, they still have to be 18 to be able to sign contracts. Otherwise, it’s up to your judgment of their level of responsibility.

Q: A friend tells me that Sen. McCain had something to do with postponing the RV because of a tax issue. What do you think about this?

A: I haven’t heard anything about that, but I doubt.

Q: Re: self-directed ROTH IRAs, is there a minimum or maximum deposit?

A: The maximum you are allowed to contribute each year changes annually, and I think it’s about $6,000 at the moment.

Q: Are IRAs insured by the bank for the full dollar amount?

A: I imagine it is the same as for any other account.

Q: Will you expound on the Indonesian Rupiah news?

A: What news?

Q: Have the people that you know that have SKRs been made liquid?

A: No, they are

Live questions

470/865/404 caller: That ratio of 1:1 is in-country, right? [Yes.] Do you mean 21. August in Iraq or in the US? If so, that means 20. August for us, possibly. Another thing: the US Embassy in Iraq is restricting the movement of their employees for security reasons; do you have anything on that?

RayRen: I haven’t heard about that, much less having any impact from it.

610 caller: If you are financially able, please donate by mail, sending your check or money order to Ray Renfrow, PO Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822.

Next caller: I had been asking for prayers for my wife with cancer, but she passed away last week. Thanks for all the prayers. We bought dinar together, and she wanted to give her half to her kids. She never got it together to do a gift letter. As we bought the currency together, can I create the gift letter? We actually gave them the currency two years ago. My board name is Blazer917.

RayRen: Taxwise, it’s not going to matter or help them. It depends on whether and how it might be taxed, whether there is short or long-term issues. You could wait until we find out afterwards. I guess I would probably do an affidavit that this is what you are attesting to, and give it to them, so that it proves you are part-owner of the gift, and when you gave it to them.

832 caller: I own dong, but no dinar. I do have some Zim. What is your take on the dong right now?

RayRen: I feel very positive about it. We’ve been told they will all be in the same basket. I don’t see why you wouldn’t have dinar as well, apart from affordability.

Caller: That is an issue, so I’m just holding onto the dong for when it happens.

410 caller: Is there any truth to speculation about the CBI and the rate showing at 1200 rather than the 1160 we’ve been seeing for years?

RayRen: Just yesterday a member was talking to an Iraqi about the currency, and the Iraqi said, “The rate is 1200 and then it went up to 1275”, losing value rather than gaining in value. The charts are still showing 1170 or so. I wonder what area he lives in to see the rate increasing rather than decreasing. We haven’t seen that in print yet.

Caller: I know you don’t get caught up in all the rumors and other stuff online, but there is chatter saying that ‘the money is going straight to Ray’ and all that. I do appreciate 610 reminds us, but when he says it every time, and tell us to write out a check to Ray Renfrow… then people think it’s going straight to you.

RayRen: Well it is coming to me, just like the bills are coming to me! This is the more important thing for you to think about: I don’t care what they say or claim. The reality is that if the money isn’t here to keep this site/calls going, it will go down. That nearly happened twice since I took over. I said from the beginning that I would not be paying out of my own pocket for giving out information to people who are not willing to pony up for these calls. When electronic payments crapped out, the whole flow has slowed down a lot. Gman always asks if he should mention it, and lately I’ve told him to say something, because the trickle is so slow that we need to remind folks a few weeks is advance. Of course the money is coming to me – it’s my site. Who do they expect it to go to? The hecklers must still be on the calls/site or what are they ****ing about? For anyone who takes a leadership position will have people hating on them, and I don’t let it affect me.

RayRen: Anything is possible, but if everything goes according to the information I have been listening to, then it should be done before the end of this month, so September and 2018 are irrelevant.

503 caller: About self-directed IRAs, I’m not in a position to do it yet but from what I’m reading, we have administrators and/or custodians… how many people do we have to have to make these work effectively? Who are the key players?

RayRen: You have the custodian: you instruct them on what you want and how to make it work. If you have an LLC they will give you information that as well, with respect to buying tangible assets. I don’t actually know if you nee both a custodian and an administrator? Are you in the chat room? [No.] When you talk with the companies, they will let you know what you need. I’ve only referred to custodians; I don’t know if the administrator is the same as a custodian or not.

Caller: I’ve done some research on the websites, and they charge for all sorts of things, so I’m trying to figure out if both a custodian and administrator are required.

RayRen: Fees might be staggering at first, but it’s the end results that count. Some can pull the fees out of your account as it grows, and that would be a plus for us.

Caller: I am setting things up for retirement; I don’t have much to invest right now, but want to arrange things so that I’ll have money to live on for a while yet.

559 caller: You said you kind of hope all the currencies don’t go at the same time – could you explain for others why that might be useful?

RayRen: Those who are on the training calls have a different mindset, but because some don’t get access to that in-depth training and mind conditioning, I will tell you what you need to hear. Put this whole thing in perspective. Iraqi dinar is what is keeping us here. If you have dong only, or Zim only, but no dinar, I think you are missing a key part of this process. If you can get any currency, have at least a little dinar, even if it’s just a little bit; some is better than none. Iraq is the only country that I’ve seen that is putting this information to its citizens. They are saying “we are changing the currency; you will have more spending power than before”. Vietnam is saying “we should be making economic reforms” but that is different in substance from “reforms will be done by 21. August”. It’s a business, so I would have at least some currency that is a sure thing, and then look around for other currencies that MAY change. If just one currency changes, how much impact can that have on you, with other currencies? If dinar revalues all by itself, that gives you money to buy the other currencies that have not revalued YET. The same is true for the dong, the rupiah: use that leverage to stair-step you into something bigger, maybe overnight. That can’t happen if you only have one currency. A 25K dinar note only costs $20. This is about diversification; I’d rather have some of ALL of it rather than all of one currency. If you only have one, you have to wait for that one currency to do something, and hope/pray that you chose the right one. You have to know which currency to buy, based on research, not just what someone says on the internet. I appreciate that people listen in my TNT and OM families; I’m not hiding behind fake names. My aim here is for you to have enough information to do their own backup research. Sometime we just need to have a heart-to-heart. We are too far along to look at a major change; it’s all out there now. You really need to be positioned to win. That’s not just about going to the bank and exchanging; it’s knowing that whatever is going on out there, you can take advantage. You need to know what’s going on with your currencies and its country. If people are giving you information without back up, then I would reconsider your strategy. If you feel you are getting good information, contribute to that site. If not, then don’t contribute. It’s a choice.

Caller: Thanks for that explanation. I think I’ll change my dog’s name to Dinar, so I’ll always have a little dinar with me…

AR caller: On your banks that buy and sell dinar right now, are there any in Arkansas?

RayRen: <page rustling> I don’t have one in Arkansas on this list. That doesn’t mean that there are no banks in Arkansas, just that no members have reported any.

Caller: Do you still think we will get early notification of the RV?

RayRen: I don’t know for sure, but that is my feeling.

Closing Statement

Some things are still expected to happen this week, and we’ll see if they unfold. If so, we will be getting in touch with you. I’ll send out an update, or we’ll talk about it on Friday IF we have our regularly scheduled call.

RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA



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