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larrykn says to DIGIman1(10:26 AM):

thanks for copying this morning :)

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larrykn says(10:27 AM):

thats a good sign

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hutch says to DIGIman1(10:41 AM):


hutch says(10:46 AM):

2017 budget "austerity" and the region's share of "17%"

Seen as MP for the Kurdistan Democratic Party Najiba Najib, on Sunday, that the federal budget for 2017 is' austerity budget ', and the share of the Kurdistan region of 17 percent.

She said Najib in a press statement, said that the ' budget 2017 austerity built on the basis of $ 42 per barrel, but after that initial estimates suggest $ 35 per barrel of oil, and the ratio of the deficit was very high, reaching more than 30 trillion dinars, it was amended budget and estimate a barrel of oil dollars with 42. "

revealed a member of the Committee of economy parliamentary that 'this amendment comes came to reducing the existing deficit in the Federal Almizanh for 2017 of 30 trillion dinars to 20 trillion Iraqi dinars. "

She said, that ' the share of the Kurdistan region in the 2017 budget comes at the same items that were in the budget in 2015 and 2016, and its share of 17 percent, but not disbursed due to problems political existing between Erbil and Baghdad. "

concluded Najib her statement, said that ' the bulk of the Iraqi budget goes to the security sector and defense, there are directions to the parliament and the Iraqi government to incorporate elements of the popular crowd with the armed forces under the umbrella of the Ministry of defense, and considered as part of the Iraqi armed forces, as the a large part of the budget goes to the popular crowd, resulting in a significant impact on the Iraqi budget.

hutch says(10:48 AM):

IMF report No. 16/225


The Board of the International Monetary Fund approved a standby credit loan SBA for a period of three years for Iraq and the rights of special drawing SDR value of 3.831 billion units (approximately: 5.34 billion, or percentage of 230%); to support the economic reform program adopted by the Iraqi government that the council authentication managed 455 Exchange million units of Special Drawing rights (about 634 million dollars) in July Iraq received a boost on according to the rapid financing funding instrument, ie the equivalent of one million units of Special Drawing rights (approximately 1.24 billion in the approval time).

The reform of the Iraqi economy, a program supported by the Stand-By loan SBA aims to address the urgent needs of the payments budget and adapt spending to the level of low world oil prices, and to ensure the survival of the debt level can afford it, the program also includes measures to protect the poor and strengthening public financial management, and enhance the stability of the financial sector, and reduce corruption, Iraq will need the support of the international community to implement these policies.

The International Monetary Fund today completed the first and second control program revision Fund experts SMP with Iraq, which was approved by the Director of Administration in the January 12, 2016.

In the wake of the signing of the Board of Directors, he issued a Deputy Director, who serves as Chairman of the Board, Mr. Min Zhu Min Zhu following statement:

(The Iraqi economy has been severely affected by the Sdmtin surfaced in the wake of the sharp drop Daesh in world oil prices attacks), then he added: (The policies implemented by the authorities to deal with those suitable impact at, in the financial field authorities carried out a fair amount of adjustment policies financial mostly came through the reduction of non-effective capital spending while maintaining social spending and funding policies, and in the inner area authorities maintained a peg to the US dollar, which is the President of the economy LED).

He continued by saying: The fiscal adjustment envisaged for the years 2016 to 2019 is suitable to relieve the pressure caused by lower oil revenues, as well as higher spending on humanitarian and security affairs, but the fiscal adjustment structure must be improved over time, in order to make room for an increase in investment spending but about a more effective, that the reform of public financial management system is necessary; in order to improve fiscal discipline, as well as improve the quality of spending, the implementation of the sharing of the budget with the KRG agreement puts both the federal government (federal) and the government of the region in a better position to respond to attacks Daesh The oil price shock.


larrykn says(10:49 AM):

230 % lol

hutch says(10:51 AM):

Thats how the sdr works. They are allowed a percentage of their sdr deposit.

hutch says(10:51 AM):

Generally it is 200 percent

larrykn says(10:51 AM):

really that kind of high

larrykn says(10:52 AM):

they will be paying back over 15 billion dollars for a 5 billion dollar loan

hutch says(10:52 AM):

They have approx 10bl in sdr basket, so they are allowed 200 percent of that. That is why they were able to get a 20bl loan

hutch says(10:53 AM):

Its not the interest rate

larrykn says(10:54 AM):

yes , just reread that your right its not the interest but what they can brorrow from

hutch says(10:55 AM):

Thats what the agreement is and the 5.34 is one of the installments

larrykn says(10:57 AM):

yes, all I can say is I love it they are moving forward an I think these loans start what we are looking for

hutch says(10:58 AM):

It gets them on their feet. Thats why investment into the country is so important to what OUR end goal is.

hutch says(10:59 AM):

Here comes a favorite

hutch says(10:59 AM):

Who is benefiting from Iraqi Kurdistan oil?

October 9, 2016

NEW YORK,— The news about oil and Kurdistan continues and most of us are very confused to where all of the Billions of dollars in oil sales are disappearing to. All the time we hear and read on the news about the millions of barrels of oil being sold every month in Kurdistan and yet the people in Kurdistan are not getting paid the salaries and have not had their salaries paid in almost one year now.

For example; last week the Ministry of Oil said that they got $611 Million in oil sales for the month of September and they only had a net of $327 Million and they claim of $284 Million in expense. Of course the oil ministry does not say where this huge amount of expense went to, but I think we now know. Most of this money is going to pay off the “foreign advisers” that the Kurdish government has on it payroll. Some of the advisers are mentioned in this Wikileak document.

If anyone takes a little time and do some research about who many foreign advisers the Kurdish government has, they will be very shocked. Why do we need so many of those advisers, or should I say, thieves and robbers? Do we not have Kurds that can write and read to become advisers?

The Kurdish government has bought many foreign politicians with our Kurdish money and got nothing in return. These foreigners, all of them are British, are making millions and while we Kurds are suffering with no salary payment that resulted in having our children not being able to go to school this year because the teachers are on strike and demand their payments. How can we ever have our own country of we have no education? This does not matter to the British advisers since they are only there to steal our oil money and do not care about our children.

On February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered “global intelligence” company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. One of the documents below:

Local Governments Support Kurdistan-Iraq Oil & Gas Conference

LONDON (24 August 2011): Supported by the Kurdistan Regional Government, the Iraqi Government and the Ministry of Natural Resources – Kurdistan, Kurdistan-Iraq Oil & Gas will take place in Erbil on the 13-15 November 2011.The summit will be opened by H.E. Dr Barham Salih, Prime Minister of Kurdistan and H.E. Dr Ashti Hawrami, Minister of Natural resources as well as Iraqi Prime Minister Representatives and the members of the Iraqi Federal Government.

H.E. Dr Ashti Hawrami the Ministry of Natural Resources, said in his letter of support “The conference will gather together prominent figures from the KRG and the Federal Iraqi Government as well as international industry leaders and politicians. It will showcase the achievements and opportunities in upstream and downstream. The focus will be on the untapped potential as well as the success stories.”

This conference will explore Iraq’s new role in a global context and it will highlight the role of the investors on Iraq’s economy and how the Kurdistan region and Iraq are looking to open markets and resources.

The conference has a big international representation, including top-level oil executives from oil and gas companies investing or looking to invest in Iraq and service companies both in logistics and oil servicing.

The conference agenda will showcase achievements and opportunities in upstream and downstream with a focus on the untapped potential as well as success stories and the gas-to-power policies of the KRG and the federal Iraqi Government.

Adding value to the core conference, there will be workshops in Legal and Technical, and field trips.

Gulf Keystone Petroleum is confirmed as Principal Sponsor; Genel Energy, DNO, Marathon Oil, Repsol, Oil & Gas Management, UB Holding, Addax Petroleum, Oilserv, Afren, OMV, MOL, Garda World and Mubadala are confirmed as Associate Sponsors for the Conference.

hutch says(11:00 AM):


For example; last week the Ministry of Oil said that they got $611 Million in oil sales for the month of September and they only had a net of $327 Million and they claim of $284 Million in expense. Of course the oil ministry does not say where this huge amount of expense went to, but I think we now know. Most of this money is going to pay off the “foreign advisers” that the Kurdish government has on it payroll. Some of the advisers are mentioned in this Wikileak document.

hutch says(11:01 AM):


hutch says(11:02 AM):


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larrykn says to hutch(11:03 AM):

we all know Barzani is a corrupted idiot, so this makes sence, wonder what the IMF will do about that

puffdragon says to larrykn(11:08 AM):

Maybe this is one of the reasons Abadi has had delays in paying the kurds the 17 % ? Abadi all about getting the corruption under control first !

hutch says(11:15 AM):


_AB_Newsflash says(11:20 AM):

Good afternoon everyone,Hello Hutch

_AB_Newsflash says(11:20 AM):

you mind if i brought in article to share with ya all

_AB_Newsflash says(11:21 AM):

Iraqi Finance

Why collapsed the Iraqi dinar .. Economists call for the central bank to answer

(11:22 AM)Pablo was kicked out by Pablo!

_AB_Newsflash says(11:23 AM):

2016/10/9 01:17:11 PM

Called experts and bankers, the CBI study the reality of government and private banks up to the re-evaluation and classification, assigning the work of a specialist in financial analysis team to determine the administrative performance and credit efficiency standards, with the participation of Iraqi banks, advisers and experts Bankers Association.

Featuring the Iraqi banking sector are seven state banks Rafidain and Rasheed, and the Iraqi trade, industrial, agricultural and real estate, Islamic and rivers, and 35 private banks, including Islamic banks and specialized branches of Arab and foreign banks.

He stressed banking expert of Iraq, Samir Nasiri, according to the newspaper "Life", the importance of applying the Board of the Central Bank decision on controls the nomination of board members and staff leaders in the banks, and confirm the separation between the owners and executive departments, and not allow them to interfere in the executive work.

He explained that the economic crisis pant features since mid-2014 and continued repercussions so far behind them well-known economists and the public reasons. And identified by financial mismanagement in state institutions, and dispose of non-studied oil resources achieved in previous years, as well as a decline in oil prices by 65 percent from what it was, it all added to the cost of the war on terrorism and requirements.

The Alnasiri the existence of steps to address the wrong policies in the economy, is the importance of developing a methodology or a clear strategy for the economy, and not to rely entirely on oil resources, and the development of plans and programs targeted to diversify its resources, and to encourage other sectors such as agriculture, industry and tourism.

He stressed the need to implement the strategies prepared by committees advisers in the Council of Ministers in cooperation with the United Nations, international organizations, and the remaining 16 have not been implemented yet, and did not support the days of financial abundance, from oil revenues. It focused on "the trend towards infrastructure sponsoring and supporting the economy and institution-building, and to adopt proper mechanisms in the implementation of monetary policy and the creation of an alternative to the auction of the currency because it faced criticism."

And cash trading market, pointed out that the problems suffered by the instability of the dinar exchange rate, and the flight of the proportion of foreign currency abroad to the goals of non-economic and download the central bank responsibility that must be common to government institutions, as well as speculators and currency traders, formed factors led to the decline in the proportion of saving money supply in banks to 23 percent, compared with compactness amounting to 77 percent outside the banking sector.

He said that it indicates a lack of confidence among customers and a number of banks due to low liquidity in some of them to a minimum, bringing the banks to not being able to fulfill its obligations to customers at their request to refund their deposits.

The businessmen and money attributed the poor management of the banking sector to the money men control and exploitation of banks for funds deposited managers. They held the central government responsible for the deteriorating economic situation of lack of planning and organization.

The head of the Iraqi Businessmen Union is willing Blibl, that the poor management in the banking sector because the money men under control, which is contributed to the exploitation of the funds deposited by some banks and their managers for private investment in the form of violation of the law.

And saw the Iraqi Businessmen Union member Abdul Hassan Ziadi, that this problem borne by the central government for the delay in payments to people, in addition to the lack of organization of the economic process that led to the collapse of the process.

She drew the representative of the International Center for Special Projects in Iraq Mona earthquake, that banking is true for these banks was one of the causes of the problem, as are given to friends and acquaintances managers without study.

The Central Bank of the Iraqi government has given banks until last September, to adapt systems and electronic transactions.

He stated that the beneficiaries and users of these trading ratio not exceeding 10 percent. He suggested the possibility of expanding the contribution of orientations in the use and benefit from 77 percent of the money supply in the possession of citizens outside the banks, get rid of the cash circulation problems.

_AB_Newsflash says(11:23 AM):


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larrykn says(11:37 AM):

Economists warn of increasing Iraq 's debt and "deal" with the Gulf states , "rejected" the Paris Club standards

2016-10-09 19:00:00 | (Voice of Iraq) - Baghdad

He warned an economist, on Sunday, to increase Iraq 's debt ratio of the GDP being designed to cover the consumer or operational expenses, while reducing economic adviser to the risk that debt because the internal or "unrecognized" majority, criticized another expert not to issue the concerned authorities data allow fundamentalist understanding of the financial position and the size of the debt, calling on parliament to "beware of the debt of Gulf states that have not agreed to accept the standards of the Paris Club."

The economist said Majid picture, " The number of Iraqi and foreign sources confirm that Iraq 's internal debts amounting to up to 43 trillion dinars and external limits of $ 70 billion, excluding labeled Balqdhirh debt, related to Saudi Arabia and the UAE," returned to " the rising debt on the current rates can result in a significant risk to the Iraqi economy, the fact that GDP is 79% debt constitutes 77% of it. "

He added the picture, that "the countries that exceed the size of the debt ratio of the total domestic production, enjoying a strong economy and a more productive loans, not consumer , " noting that " the seriousness of Iraqi debt that is mostly intended to cover consumption expenditure or operational."

For his part , economic adviser Kazem al - Hassani said, " The special Iraqi debt the size of the numbers, is not accurate," pointing out that "most of those debts internal and not external, taken from Iraqi banks means they government."

He said al - Hassani, that "there are two types of external debt, new and old relate to the stage before 2003, the Paris private debt and compensation Kuwait , " noting that "Iraq 's debt to the Gulf countries are not originally unrecognized debts."

The al - Hassani, that " the debt is usually within the agreements between states , but Gulf debt is recognized by the Iraqi side because they did not come into agreement with them, with the exception of Kuwait being covered by United Nations resolutions and the UN Security Council, for compensation, not debt."

In turn , he said the economist Ahmed Rehn, said that " the concerned authorities have not issued during the past three years, fundamentalist data attached to the budget, allows to understand the financial situation in Iraq and the size of the internal and external indebtedness , " stressing that " the concerned authorities should have issued detailed data on domestic debt and those owed to other countries and international financial institutions and even that did not pay dues Iraqis and foreign contractors , constitute another form of debt. "

He called Rehn, the House of Representatives, to the "attention to the debt of Gulf states not recognized by Iraq, because those countries did not agree to accept the Paris Club standards just like the other foreign countries, and has so far refused to

larrykn says(11:38 AM):

deal with the criteria for the club."

The Investment Committee parliamentary expressed in the (18 August 2016), for fear of not fulfilling Iraq 's ability to pay its debts, especially obtained recently, as a result of the continued decline of oil prices with the budget shortfall and the costs of the war against the (Daesh).

It is noteworthy that the government of friendly countries and international banks negotiate to get a long - term soft loans, amounting to about $ 30 billion.

This comes as a result of the lack of lending financial state revenues and the lack of productive sectors alternative for oil reliable despite the existence of economic fundamentals , which can be utilized to maximize the financial resources of the state.

magnetlady says(11:51 AM):

THank you AB Newsflash for sharing articles with the Chat Room. Much appreciated

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magnetlady says(12:01 PM):

Hey Larrykn. Thanks to you too for always bringing in the news for us.

_AB_Newsflash says to magnetlady(12:01 PM):

my pleasure,and most welcome

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larrykn says to magnetlady(12:03 PM):

yvw :)

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subgirl says to larrykn(12:12 PM):

GA :) can I give you a break ??

larrykn says to subgirl(12:15 PM):

sure :)

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larrykn says to subgirl(12:16 PM):

ty subby :)

subgirl says to larrykn(12:17 PM):

yw :)

subgirl says to larrykn(12:20 PM):


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subgirl says to larrykn(12:30 PM):

wow sure quiet in here lol i can hear a pin drop lol

larrykn says to subgirl(12:31 PM):

yes one can take a nap an noone would know :D

subgirl says to larrykn(12:31 PM):

lol hey you are right lol (lol)

hutch says(12:31 PM):

pin drop pin drop pin drop

subgirl says to hutch(12:32 PM):


subgirl says to hutch(12:32 PM):


hutch says(12:32 PM):


larrykn says to hutch(12:32 PM):

I see you made guru status :D

subgirl says to hutch(12:32 PM):


subgirl says to hutch(12:32 PM):


hutch says(12:32 PM):

Oh no Larry, I hope not. Where was that ?

larrykn says to hutch(12:33 PM):

dinar guru

subgirl says to hutch(12:33 PM):

too late hutch lol

hutch says(12:33 PM):

Im just a mod/copier

subgirl says to hutch(12:33 PM):


larrykn says to hutch(12:33 PM):

not anymore :D

hutch says(12:33 PM):

Im going back to being a copier, I can sit back and crack jokes

subgirl says to larrykn(12:33 PM):


subgirl says to hutch(12:34 PM):

(Tp) just copy, hutch lol

subgirl says to hutch(12:35 PM):

somehow you dont seem to be just a copier!!! lol

larrykn says(12:35 PM):

I don't know nothing, nothing :D

hutch says(12:35 PM):

Digi and I handle the joke dept, OH the good ole days ....

hutch says to larrykn(12:35 PM):

You sound like schultz

subgirl says to hutch(12:35 PM):


larrykn says(12:36 PM):

yep that who I was going for lol

subgirl says to hutch(12:36 PM):

and you two do sucha great job too lol

hutch says(12:36 PM):

It works

subgirl says to hutch(12:36 PM):


hutch says(12:36 PM):

Ok... BBL things to do. I'll check in on my next break,

hutch says(12:36 PM):


larrykn says(12:37 PM):

yes mr guru :D

subgirl says to hutch(12:37 PM):

ok :) cya laters, zzzzzzz.......

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baxter says(12:57 PM):

R We Rich yet?

baxter says(12:59 PM):

well....no one spoke... so I guess not... :)

subgirl says to Ame(1:01 PM):

nope not today! ask me tomorrow!!!! lol

subgirl says to Ame(1:02 PM):

I have a feeling you will know when it happens lol

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subgirl says to Ame(1:02 PM):

how areyou AME ??

Ame says(1:08 PM):

well thanks

Ame says(1:08 PM):

in commercial watching my race

subgirl says to Ame(1:08 PM):

your welcome! :)

Ame says(1:09 PM):

I need to practive my Happy dance I guess we are CLOSE now

subgirl says to Ame(1:09 PM):

oh cool! you are watching nascar?

Ame says(1:09 PM):


subgirl says to Ame(1:09 PM):

cool! :)

subgirl says to Ame(1:09 PM):

is your car winning?

Ame says(1:09 PM):

don't have ONE

subgirl says to Ame(1:09 PM):

what? lol

Ame says(1:10 PM):

as long as Kyle Bush and his Toyota isn't winning I am happy

subgirl says to Ame(1:10 PM):

oh wow lol

Ame says(1:10 PM):

Ford 1st Chevy secong Toyota CRASHED

subgirl says to Ame(1:10 PM):

ok then... so they must not be winning???

Ame says(1:10 PM):


Ame says(1:10 PM):

Chase elliott in a chevy is ahead now

subgirl says to Ame(1:11 PM):

so you are happy lol

Ame says(1:11 PM):


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Ame says(1:11 PM):

time 2 go back to it

Ame says(1:11 PM):


subgirl says to Ame(1:11 PM):

ok have fun :)

Ame says(1:11 PM):


subgirl says to Ame(1:12 PM):

yw :)

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subgirl says(1:49 PM):

Gold Council: Iraq maintains its gold reserves at 89.8 tonnes

09/10/2016 (0:01 pm) - The number of readings: 87

Baghdad / term

World Gold Council, announced on Saturday that Iraq maintained its gold reserves for the month of October, adding that both China and India are preparing the most consuming countries for this precious metal.

The council said in a report seen by the "long", "The official statistics for the month of October showed that Iraq maintained its gold reserves and did not purchase or sell any amount of gold," noting that "its gold reserves remain stable at 89.8 tons."

He said the council that "these reserves of gold represents 6.9% of its reserves of foreign currency," adding that "Iraq is an Arab occupies the fifth rank in the reserves and 37th place globally."

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subgirl says(1:51 PM):

143 billion barrels, Iraq's reserves of crude oil

Hits count 18 date 09/10/2016-18:38


Jabbar oil Minister fault, reaching 143 billion barrels of crude reserves, estimated he will arrive over the next few years to 250 billion barrels.

He said during his meeting with President of the flaw of Lukoil Vagit Alekperov of Russian oil, the oil Ministry's plan for this year and next focused on developing oil and gas production, to expand the contribution of Lukoil through decades of investment in this area or participation in other projects that will be implemented next year. "

He added that "Iraq has oil reserves estimated at 143 billion barrels of crude oil, and a large reserve of gas."

He explained that "the Ministry started a new era which will continue to develop the oil and gas sector" over 29

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