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Revival: If Baghdadi is dead, next IS leader likely to be Saddam-era officer

By Loaa Adel Jun 24, 2017, 4:22 pm

If Baghdadi is dead, next IS leader likely to be Saddam-era officer
The Islamic State supreme leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

(Reuters) If Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is confirmed dead, he is likely to be succeeded by one of his top two lieutenants, both of whom were Iraqi army officers under late dictator Saddam Hussein.

​Experts on Islamist groups see no clear successor but regard Iyad al-Obaidi and Ayad al-Jumaili as the leading contenders, though neither would be likely to assume Baghdadi’s title of “caliph”, or overall commander of Muslims.

Russia’s defense ministry said last week Baghdadi may have been killed in an air strike in Syria and Interfax news agency quoted a senior Russian parliamentarian on Friday as saying the likelihood that he had been killed was close to 100 percent.



But armed groups fighting in the region and many regional officials are skeptical about the reports.

“We don’t have any concrete evidence on whether or not he’s dead either,” U.S. Army Colonel Ryan Dillon, spokesman for the international coalition battling Islamic State, told a Pentagon briefing.

Obaidi, who is in his 50s, has been serving as war minister. Jumaili, in his late 40s, is head of the group’s Amniya security agency. In April Iraqi state TV said Jumaili had been killed, but that was not confirmed.

Both joined the Sunni Salafist insurgency in Iraq in 2003, following the U.S.-led invasion which Saddam and empowered Iraq’s Shi’ite majority.

They have been Baghdadi’s top aides since air strikes in 2016 killed his then deputy Abu Ali al-Anbari, his Chechen war minister Abu Omar al-Shishani and his Syrian chief propagandist, Abu Mohammad al-Adnani.

“Jumaili recognizes Obaidi as his senior but there is no clear successor and, depending on conditions, it can be either of the two (who succeeds Baghdadi),” said Hisham al-Hashimi, who advises several Middle East governments on IS affairs.

Baghdadi awarded himself the title of caliph – the chief Muslim civil and religious ruler, regarded as the successor of the Prophet Mohammad – in 2014. Obaidi or Jumaili would be unlikely to become caliph because they lack religious standing and Islamic State has lost much of its territory.

NO “LAND TO RULE”

“They don’t belong to the Prophet Mohammad’s lineage. The group has no longer ‘a land to rule’ or ‘Ardh al-Tamkeen’. And none is well versed in Islamic theology,” said Fadhel Abu Ragheef, another Iraqi expert on the extremist group.

“A caliph has to have an Ardh al-Tamkeen, which he rules in accordance with Islamic law. Failing that, the successor will just be recognized as the emir,” said Hashimi.

Emir is Arabic for prince, and is a title that jihadists often use to describe their leaders.

By contrast, Baghdadi, born as Ibrahim Awad al-Samarrai’ in 1971, comes from a family of preachers and studied Islamic law in Baghdad.

The appointment of the new leader would require the approval of an eight-member shoura council, an advisory body to the caliph. But its members would be unlikely to meet for security reasons so would make their opinion known through couriers.

Six members of the council are Iraqis, one Jordanian and one Saudi, and all are veterans of the Sunni salafist insurgency.

A ninth member, the group’s Bahraini chief cleric, Turki al-Bin’ali, was killed in an air strike in Syria on May 31.

In Washington, two U.S. intelligence officials said they believed Islamic State had moved most of its leaders to al-Mayadin in Syria’a Euphrates Valley, southeast of the group’s besieged capital there, Raqqa.

Among the operations moved to al-Mayadin, about 80 km (50 miles) west of the Iraqi border, were its online propaganda operation and its limited command and control of attacks in Europe and elsewhere, they said.

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/baghdadi-dead-next-leader-likely-saddam-era-officer/

I say look for him and take him out before he starts! ReVival

MrsClassy: Daesh calls its elements to watch a statement on al-Baghdadi

June 24 .2017 A local source in the province Ninoy, Sbt, said that the organization published a circular Daesh surprise in most mosques in Tal Afar, west of Mahafezh, calls through its elements to keep an eye out an important statement on the organization's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

The source said, "The organization has issued a circular Daesh with a surprise early morning hours in most of the mosques of Tal Afar, west Ninoy, addition to its headquarters in which the main calls to keep an eye out an important statement on the organization's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi."

He added that he "did not know the nature of the statement, which intends to Daesh Amaath, but there is a state of confusion and Adhh, as if talking about the killing of al-Baghdadi became reality," expected to "be broadcast news or exile during the coming period."

http://sumer.news/ar/news/20688/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B4-%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B9%D9%88-%D8%B9%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%87-%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%82%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A3%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%BA%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A

MrsClassy: Good Morning Revival! and you bunch of PDers.

Pacificpalm: Yup good morning and thank you and all the other researchers and posters for the continued dedication for us all. SOON WE SHALL SEA A CHANGE WE ALL WANT TO SEE!!!!

KJWayne: IF and I said IF, they know who the next leader of DASSH is going to be, THEN get in touch with that Canada guy that shoots real good from long range . Give him two new targets ! NOW!

Cinpool: Totally agree pacificpalm "? I love this site' and of course Thank you !! Stevel , many many thanks

Cinpool: Kjwayne: if there was a prize for best idea of the day !!! YOU just won !

Guitarzan: Make sure this guy's is on the face of one of the deck cards!

http://forums2014.peoplesdinar.com/index.php?/topic/113349-if-baghdadi-is-dead-next-is-leader-likely-to-be-saddam-era-officer/#comment-869826

MrsClassy: Special sources said on Saturday that the liberation of Mosul will be the night of Eid al-Fitr

Sources for BAGHDAD / Special sources said on Saturday that the liberation of Mosul will be the night of Eid al-Fitr after the completion of all military operations in the old city.

The sources told Al-Ghad Press that "the anti-terrorist apparatus ended the pockets of a preacher's organization near the Great Mosque of Nuri and managed to take control of the old city completely." The combing operations are accompanied by minor clashes that are dealt with very quickly, Capabilities that have enabled it to prolong the fighting. "

The sources pointed out that "the Joint Operations Command confirmed through its aerial survey clean the entire city, and remove most of the people stranded through the safe corridors."

The sources expected that "the Prime Minister, Haider Abadi, announce the liberation statement on the night of Eid al-Fitr, followed by celebrations in various cities of Iraq."

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.alghadpress.com/&prev=search

pacificpalm; One thing to say: WE SHALL SEA!!!!

MrsClassy: Sources for "Tomorrow Press": Abadi will announce the liberation of Mosul at this time

suggested private sources, on Saturday, declared liberation of Mosul would be the night of Eid al - Fitr after the completion of all military operations in the old city.

​And told sources "Tomorrow Press" that "anti - terrorism apparatus ended the rest of the pockets to organize Daesh near the Great Mosque of Al - Nouri, and was able to control the entire old city," he said . "Combing operations , accompanied by simple clashes are being addressed very quickly, due to the loss of the organization all capabilities that enabled the former to prolong the fighting. "

The sources indicated that " the leadership of the Joint Operations confirmed through the air clean up the city completely clear it , take out most of the stranded residents through the corridors safe."

The sources expected that the "declares Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi, editorial statement on the night of Eid al - Fitr, followed by celebrations permeated the various cities of Iraq."

https://www.alghadpress.com/news/107067/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%84%D9%80%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%AF-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%86-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%84-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D9%87%D8%B0%D8%A7

masterdinar: How Fitr(ing) is that? Timing is everything. The Iraqi people really N'Eid this to happen.

Beachrider: I'M REALLY LOVING THE NEWS RIGHT NOW!

Thewoods: Does anyone know , What night is the night of Eid al-Fitr??

Beachrider: night of the 25th

http://forums2014.peoplesdinar.com/index.php?/topic/113344-special-sources-said-on-saturday-that-the-liberation-of-mosul-will-be-the-night-of-eid-al-fitr/#comment-869837

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