I have been in this whole thing a long, long time already! I think we should all remember something - these so called "guru's" are all just like the rest of us. They submit their "best educated guesses", but they don't really know any more than we do.
Personally, I've learned to take all of their stories with a grain of salt, no matter what is said on any of these sites, by any of the so called gurus. The "proof" will come when it actually happens.
The "Need to Know" poster is right in his post, we will know when we "need" to know, and none of us including the so called guru's will know before it is time. They will know for sure about 2 hours before we will know just because it may take that long for them to get it posted to the rest of us. We just have to keep ourselves under control and bide our time!
It is my belief that we are waiting for the new PTB to get control of our Government system before anything can happen.
Hold on brothers & sisters!