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Thursday, October 6, 2016

BGG's News Time at Dinar Updates 10/6/16 - Part 2

NEWSTIME WITH MadDSCOUT AND 1BOBBY, et al, Thursday, October 6, 2016 - Part 2

Okie Dinar says to foxrun(7:22 PM):


MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:23 PM):

Andrew did you have a report?

To bring us

MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:23 PM):


_AB_Newsflash says(7:23 PM):

i am looking as we speak

gimme a few

MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:23 PM):

Right on

foxrun says(7:24 PM):


MadDScout says(7:24 PM):

State - owned companies have indicated their willingness for the reconstruction of liberated areas

MadDScout says(7:25 PM):

General Company for the design and implementation of projects announced one of the Ministry of Industry and Minerals full readiness to contribute to the reconstruction of the affected areas in Anbar and Salahuddin province.

foxrun says(7:26 PM):

This so huge for the future....putting shovels in their hands instead of rifles...will change the tribal culture.

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:26 PM):

The center said Director of Information and Public Relations at the Ministry of Industry and Minerals Abdul Wahid al-Shammari said in a statement received "Economy News," a copy of it today, "The company is fully prepared to participate in the reconstruction of the affected areas of vital facilities and infrastructure, roads, bridges and the reconstruction of buildings and power plants and also water treatment plants, so come through the efforts and expertise of the company in this area, where the company has the reconstruction of bridges in the province of Basra Fayhaa bridge and bridge navigational aperture ".

There is a big campaign to get people to work

foxrun says(7:27 PM):

This to me is key for Iraq...give the citizens skin in the game....

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:27 PM):

There is a big campaign to get people to work

1bobby says(7:28 PM):

The reconstruction effort will be amazing. Will promote the private sector and like you said, put Iraqi's to work

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:28 PM):

Lots of reports about the reconstruction and the number of countries who are standing in line to help rebuild the freed areas

foxrun says(7:28 PM):

I can not emphasize enough jobs aplenty is a game changer for this ME country.

When the news talks about all the destruction I see OPPORTUNITY...rebuilding their country.

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:30 PM):

I saw school refurbishment, and a call go out to job seekers for the Oil industry

foxrun says(7:30 PM):

Yes will happen big time just watch.

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:31 PM):

They even have scams identified to be "fishing scams to get would be job applicants information

_AB_Newsflash says to MadDScout(7:32 PM):

ok found a juicy one

Ame says(7:32 PM):

GN gang

larrykn says to Ame(7:33 PM):

be safe

Okie Dinar says to Ame(7:33 PM):


MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:33 PM):

Hold one

_AB_Newsflash says to MadDScout(7:33 PM):

GN Ame

MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:33 PM):

Did you have a question earlier?

Ame says(7:33 PM):

as long as I don't wake up in OX I will B fine

Ame says(7:33 PM):


RickeyT says to MadDScout(7:33 PM):


MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:34 PM):

Go ahead

RickeyT says to MadDScout(7:34 PM):

is Iraq still in phase one of the economic roll out?

MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:35 PM):

I am not sure on where they are in terms of phases

RickeyT says to MadDScout(7:35 PM):


MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:35 PM):

But we see a lot of "rattle" about them getting banking in order

RickeyT says to MadDScout(7:36 PM):

I saw an article earlier about the "next phase"

MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:36 PM):

Unless it is an exercise in rhetoric, I would say they have a plan and a goal and am satisfied to watch the action

1bobby says(7:36 PM):

They are pushing their economy on a daily basis to further the needs of the Iraqi people. As we see from the COM meetings, Abadi is pushing forth his "economic" package

MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:37 PM):

Some times they use that word to denote the next "time period"

1bobby says(7:37 PM):

There are certain things he can and can not do. He can't work without a certain law that Parliament has yet to pass, so he does what he can to keep the economy going

MadDScout says to RickeyT(7:37 PM):

It is hard unless taken in context to get what they specifically mean in a given use of the phrase

foxrun says(7:37 PM):

Even new refineries

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:39 PM):

There is a building boom ready to happen in these liberated areas

foxrun says(7:39 PM):

It is my belief that the private sector will be the horse that drags this country into the next properous can see itgrowing muscle everyday.

MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:39 PM):

Go with that report Andrew

foxrun says(7:39 PM):

it growing

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:40 PM):


suprkat53 says(7:40 PM):


MadDScout says to suprkat53(7:40 PM):


foxrun says(7:41 PM):

Just like this country...goverments do not create least real is private enterprise that will light this baby off.

suprkat53 says(7:41 PM):

I saw earlier where you mentioned they were working on water. Is there proper water for the people now?

MadDScout says to suprkat53(7:41 PM):

There is a ongoing effort

as with many things you have war damage

foxrun says(7:41 PM):

Work in progress

_AB_Newsflash says(7:41 PM):

Awadi: Parliament agrees to read the land titling law, bypassing the second reading and there are deputies opponents

BAGHDAD / tomorrow Press:

MP for the Liberal Awad al-Awadi block, on Thursday, on the approval of Parliament to read the land titling law, bypassing the second reading, as he pointed out that there are MPs opposed to the law Aimitlkon courage to approval being will reveal the corrupt, who has long extorted poor bond territory, including forged during the election period.

He said al-Awadi, in an interview for "tomorrow's Press," "after having objections illegal not to legislation titling law Residential Land Municipal bypassing approved on second reading," stressing that "despite the difficulties encountered and after my presentation and I am convinced that the law was unconstitutional and illegal and legal right and keeps the design basic cities because of the state's duty to provide housing for citizens. "

"The President of the Parliament Legal and Finance Committee and Afqu the enactment of the law and to begin the second reading, but there was opposition from people (some, not all) of the state law specifically," adding that "these people are opposed to Aimitlkon courage to pass this law being will reveal the corrupt, who has long poor ground extorted bonds forged ones during the election period. "

Al-Awadi noted that "the face of the parliament that will be host to make some adjustments and speed in the provision of the law to vote," noting that "the information reached all do some deputies abusers promise during the election period Pettmenm residential land to earn their votes."

He pointed out that "this proposal debunking exploits the poor and now we're not in an election period and Amqublan them as well as I made this 12/08/2015 law," noting that "when the Iraqi people watched parliamentary session will see the fact that some MPs in opposition to the law of land titling

MadDScout says to suprkat53(7:42 PM):

and infrustructure issues

It is a work in progress and yes some areas have limited fresh water

_AB_Newsflash says(7:42 PM):

sorry thought you were finished

1bobby says(7:42 PM):

The COM has pushed the water projects to heights never seen before today in Iraq. Even completing projects in Province's that have yet to have the displaced return. Very good question

People need basics before returning

MadDScout says to suprkat53(7:43 PM):

Indeed good question

suprkat53 says(7:43 PM):

I just feel so bad for them every time I turn on my water faucet.

1bobby says(7:43 PM):

I agree

MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:43 PM):

LOL So did I

What was your read on this ?

suprkat53 says(7:43 PM):


MadDScout says to suprkat53(7:44 PM):

You're most welcome

MadDScout says(7:44 PM):

Also folks we realize the clock is ticking and we will wrap here shortly

1bobby says(7:45 PM):

yeah plus Bobby's on 2 Bourbons

MadDScout says to 1bobby(7:45 PM):


_AB_Newsflash says(7:45 PM):

land for lease/sale

suprkat53 says(7:45 PM):


foxrun says(7:45 PM):

Great newstime Pat job well done...I like it.

MadDScout says to _AB_Newsflash(7:45 PM):

Ah some more non-oil revenue?

_AB_Newsflash says(7:45 PM):

that too

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:45 PM):

Thank you Tom

MadDScout says to 1bobby(7:46 PM):

Did you see that report?

foxrun says(7:46 PM):

We roll easy like fine bourbon here.

MadDScout says(7:47 PM):

Do we have any question?

larrykn says(7:47 PM):


MadDScout says to larrykn(7:48 PM):


1bobby says(7:48 PM):

That article speaks somewhat what was discussed in Parliament today about providing housing for the poor and displaced

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:48 PM):


larrykn says(7:48 PM):

what is your option on what happening with the Turks coming in unwelcome

1bobby says to larrykn(7:49 PM):

That's a big deal and has gotten bigger. Yet I saw a report tonight where Turkey has softened it's stance somewhat

larrykn says(7:49 PM):

haven't seen that one but a lot of news on it all day

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:49 PM):

I figure they will more as time goes also

foxrun says(7:49 PM):

I for one see their point....

1bobby says to larrykn(7:49 PM):

Will they vacate? Not yet. The pressure is building thryu International channels to resolve the problem

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:50 PM):

pull back was the last part of my statement

larrykn says to 1bobby(7:50 PM):

yes saw that they put a request in with the UN today

1bobby says to larrykn(7:50 PM):

Gotta remember they are acting as if they are protecting Sunni interest

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:50 PM):


larrykn says to 1bobby(7:50 PM):

I don't buy that

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:51 PM):

So they don't look like the "heavy"

1bobby says to larrykn(7:51 PM):

And they were invited for training purposes into Iraq over a year ago. they just want to flex more muscle

larrykn says to MadDScout(7:51 PM):

its just the timing that gets me

1bobby says to larrykn(7:51 PM):

I do think it's somewhat holding up the liberation of Mosul

foxrun says(7:51 PM):

With a ****e gov't I see their well as Iran is on their turf yet no out cry,

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:51 PM):

Yes but I say it will work itself out.

larrykn says to MadDScout(7:52 PM):

I pray your right

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:52 PM):

Turkey does not want to risk regional engagement

larrykn says to MadDScout(7:52 PM):

I don't think anyone does

foxrun says(7:52 PM):

It will but again they have a valid point

1bobby says to larrykn(7:52 PM):

And I'm sure NATO is shaking their heads at Turkey

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:52 PM):

It's not good for business

larrykn says to MadDScout(7:53 PM):


MadDScout says to foxrun(7:53 PM):


MadDScout says to larrykn(7:54 PM):

Was that clear as mud for ya?

1bobby says to larrykn(7:54 PM):

Also see reports that Baghdad and Erbil are working together for Mosul

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:54 PM):


foxrun says(7:54 PM):

It is okay for Iran to be there ....they are not Sunni...Turkey is a neighboring state...they do have standing of sorts.

larrykn says to MadDScout(7:54 PM):

wait I'm still digging out lol

1bobby says(7:54 PM):

Iraq is soverign.....period

MadDScout says to 1bobby(7:54 PM):

Yes lots of good stuff there, I had a report we don't have time for that spoke to that

MadDScout says to larrykn(7:55 PM):


MadDScout says(7:55 PM):

Any more questions?

foxrun says(7:55 PM):

Yes Bobby but do look at the list of foreign nationals in place.

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:56 PM):

Yes I did

1bobby says(7:56 PM):

Big difference there. The Coalition has no horse in this race so to speak

No secterian interest

they want a free Iraq

foxrun says(7:56 PM):

no revealed horse...TBD.

Great night guys!!!

david334 says(7:57 PM):


MadDScout says to foxrun(7:58 PM):


larrykn says(7:58 PM):

I like to say all you guys an Gals did a great job tonight, we do have a great team here at DU :

_AB_Newsflash says(7:58 PM):

thank you for having us here MadDScout

MadDScout says to foxrun(7:58 PM):

This is how we learn. With the give and take, along with holding each other to

account on what is brought as true news.

1bobby says(7:58 PM):

For a first run....not bad at all

Okie Dinar says to 1bobby(7:59 PM):


magnetlady says(7:59 PM):

WOW What a good first try everyone. I think everyone enjoyed it very much

suprkat53 says(7:59 PM):

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of it!

MadDScout says(7:59 PM):

We have started a campaign on Facebook where the poster of an article is liable to

be challenged as to it's realevance as far as this investment is concerned, if it is

not obvious by the post.

Okie Dinar says(7:59 PM):

Ya'll did great! Thank you!

foxrun says(7:59 PM):

Not bad at all...!!!!!!!!

MadDScout says(7:59 PM):

Hold one

magnetlady says(7:59 PM):

Wasn't a try it was a done deal. YEA

MadDScout says(7:59 PM):

This is not an attempt to challenge the persons skill level as a researcher, but to

get everyone who is posting news, to think more critically about what constitutes a

"News worthy post". Or more simply, "Is this post relevant".

foxrun says(8:00 PM):

BGG if you are out there put a gold star in MadScout's jacket...he deserves it.

MadDScout says(8:00 PM):

I don't think it wrong to require that a post be relevant (BGG will correct me if I

am wrong), and it's result will be to help hone those skills you will need to be a

discerning and able manager, of anything you stand to gain in this endeavor.

If you are satisfied with waiting for someone to "clue you in", you will have it very

rough after this happens. Start now, if you have not already, reading into these

reports, ask questions when it is difficult to get it's meaning, and maybe between

us, we can work out what they are saying. And you will exercise those muscles

needed for a post "program rate" Dinar.

Just don't bail, or wait to be spoon fed, because nobody will help you keep your

gains that way. You will then have to learn what being proactive looks like, while

trying to hold on to what you have.

Take advantage of what we have here, to learn and practice those skills needed by

good managers, so your post DU chatroom life, will be a success.

If you are lazy on this side, you will likely be lazy afterward. Humans are creatures

of habit after all.

foxrun says(8:01 PM):

Well Said Pat

MadDScout says(8:01 PM):

I mean every bit of this with affection and humility. I am just a guy trying to help

people to not settle, for the outlandish stories fed to them by people with "less

than clear" motives.

Mr. White says it best in one clear sentence...."What do we know?"

We take that approach seriously over on Facebook. And is truly all we have to go

on. Which for the attentive, is enough.

Don't confuse news with "so and so"(<<insert your favorite guru here) says yadda

yadda. 'Cause unless he lives in Iraq and or works for central bank or IMF, it is

guess work. We can do as much here.

Thats is why we are here, and we have some very capable people helping us with

our understand or the "What do we know?"'s

If there are no more questions?....................

foxrun says(8:03 PM):

Yeah what do we know and for many "what does it mean".

Okie Dinar says to MadDScout(8:03 PM):

Very well said MadDScout! Thank you so very much!!

larrykn says to MadDScout(8:03 PM):

very well said

MadDScout says to larrykn(8:03 PM):


1bobby says(8:03 PM):

Kudos my friend

BGG says(8:03 PM):

No correction needed - Great commentary!!

MadDScout says(8:03 PM):

I hope y'all enjoyed our first run at this.

Okie Dinar says to 1bobby(8:04 PM):

Thank you Bobby!

patti says(8:04 PM):


_AB_Newsflash says to MadDScout(8:04 PM):

you did a Magnificent job

BGG says(8:04 PM):

Keep on keeping on brother!!

MadDScout says(8:04 PM):

We promise to only get better.

karonshaye says(8:04 PM):

Thank You!!!!!

MrsBGG says to MadDScout(8:04 PM):

Thank you!! You'all did great!!

Elane says to MadDScout(8:04 PM):

IT was quite good gang!

1bobby says to Okie Dinar(8:04 PM):

Thank you so much

Okie Dinar says to magnetlady(8:04 PM):

Thank you for copying!

MadDScout says to BGG(8:04 PM):

Thank you so much

BGG says to MadDScout(8:04 PM):

Thank you so much Pat!!

suprkat53 says(8:04 PM):


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